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( prisoner of hss )
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it sounds like im talking about a sports drink
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Bacon
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I have no idea about the ore market and now I will proceed to spout inconsistent claims about said market with utmost vigour.
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holysaiyan1
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Quote: from obvious child at 1:42 am on Aug. 14, 2008
Quote: from prisoner of hss at 6:31 pm on Aug. 13, 2008
well OC I'd say it's more that the morons inflate the price of oil then people buy like mad to hedge against inflation 
Not quite. Inflation is being increased by oil and inflation is driving the price in oil. It's a vicious cycle. the shit-tastic dollar (thanks Bush!) is causing oil producers to increase their prices causing oil to rise. As oil prices rise, inflation rises, furthering the decline of the dollar, thus causing producers to raise prices. Left alone, this is a very bad wheel of destruction. And oil as a hedge is a relatively new thing. 10 years ago oil wasn't a hedge asset. 
Fun fact: presidents don't control the economy. Also, in your mad rush to blame Bush for the economy, as hss points out, you're forgetting to add in the effect of speculators in the market.
To some degree. The government has stated that there is no evidence of speculation driving prices abnormally high, but this is also the government where Paulson denied that the dollar had an impact on oil prices. If we wanted cheap gas, the *simplest way would be to rally the dollar. * meaning in terms of monetary effects, not actually getting there. 
It's actually quite agreed upon by financial experts that speculation had a measurable effect on oil prices. I can't find the story right now, but I recall when oil went over $140 a news piece about how a man single-handedly pushed it over the $140 barrier, just so he could say he was the first person to buy oil at $140 a barrel. The dollar has been rising in value in the past few months. Precious metals and the dollar have an inverse relationship. Do the math.
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WhiteDwarf
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lol, yep, I bought 33oz's of silver bullion at around 19 or so dollars, which was stupid of me in hindsight. The other day one of the guys I work with said that an oz is worth like 13 bucks right now, and i was like "WHAT?!". i would probably buy right now, but i dont really have the spare money unfortunately.
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( prisoner of hss )
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If it drops to $11.50 I think I'll go to the shop again.
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